It is an unusual list. Along with a list an AI websites it also blocks a handful of instagram, X and Pinterest profiles. It also blocks a number of specific products on Amazon, such as a colouring book that presumably was generated with AI.
This kind of reminds me Steam where indie devs need to exclaim loudly that they are not using AI, otherwise they face backlash. Meanwhile a significant percentage of devs are using GenAI for better tab completion, better search or generating tests. All things that do not impact the end user experience negatively.
dexwiz 2 hours ago [-]
I think AI as a tool versus AI as a product are different. Even in coding you can see it with tab completion/agents v vibe coding. It's a spectrum and people are trying to find their personal divider on it. Additionally there are those out there that decry anything involving AI as heresy. (no thinking machines!)
latexr 2 hours ago [-]
> Additionally there are those out there that decry anything involving AI as heresy. (no thinking machines!)
I don’t think anyone decrying the current crop of “AI” is against “thinking machines”. We’re not there yet, LLMs don’t think, despite the marketing.
WA 2 hours ago [-]
And they don’t reason. They do prompt smoothing.
machinationu 1 hours ago [-]
LLMs don't think, and planes don't fly.
noosphr 1 hours ago [-]
LLMs think in the same way submarines swim.
nkmnz 59 minutes ago [-]
So... they do think? Or what is your position? Submarines obviously do swim, otherwise they'd either float or sink.
jazzyjackson 11 minutes ago [-]
It's an old saying. The ability for submarines to move through water has nothing to do with swimming, and AIs ability to do generate content has nothing to do with thinking.
noosphr 48 minutes ago [-]
Yes, submarines swim just like how people sail the breaststroke.
TheJoeMan 23 minutes ago [-]
Are you hitting tab because it’s what you were about to type, or did it “generate” something you don’t understand? Seems a personalized distinguisher to me.
rjh29 1 hours ago [-]
Even if GenAI is helpful it's okay to morally reject using it. There are plenty of things that give you an advantage in your career but are morally wrong. Complaints include putting people out of jobs, causing a financial bubble, filling GitHub and the internet in general with AI slop, using tons of energy, increasing dram and GPU prices.
And it's not even that apparent how much GenAI improves overall development speed, beyond making toy apps. Hallucinations, bugs, misreading your intentions, getting stuck in loops, wasting your time debugging and testing and it still doesn't help with the actual hard problems of devwork. Even the examples you mention can be fallible.
On top of all that is AI even profitable? It might be fine now but what happens when it's priced to reflect its actual costs? Anecdotally it already feels like models are being quantised and dumbed down - I find them objectively less useful and I'm hitting usage limits quicker than before. Once the free ride is over, only rich people from rich countries will have access to them and of course only big tech companies control the models. It could be peer pressure but many people genuinely object to AI universally. You can't get the useful parts without the rest of it.
57 minutes ago [-]
halyconWays 2 hours ago [-]
Given the political comments in what's supposed to be a filter, and how everything is prefaced with "shit" like "Pinterest shit," I bet the author had a personal political disagreement with those accounts.
The list is also too specific to be useful in some cases, like, is it really important to you that you add 12 entries for specific Amazon products, like: `
duckduckgo.com,bing.com##a[href*="amazon.com/Rabbit-Coloring-Book-Rabbits-Lovers/dp/B0CV43GKGZ"]:upward(li):remove()`?
GaryBluto 8 minutes ago [-]
It's bizarre that the list was even posted here. Why would anybody feel the need to share their own, personal blocklist with HN?
NotGMan 58 minutes ago [-]
Indie game devs aren't really facing any real backslash.
A smart loud minority is screaming a lot but actual paying customers don't care as long as the game is not trash.
lpcvoid 2 hours ago [-]
Devs also shouldn't be using GenAI, it's inherently anti-worker and IMHO also anti-human. But I guess that's an unpopular opinion around here.
snet0 2 hours ago [-]
If a "C+++" was created that was so efficient that it would allow teams to be smaller and achieve the same work faster, would that be anti-worker?
If an IDE had powerful, effective hotkeys and shortcuts and refactoring tools that allowed devs to be faster and more efficient, would that be anti-worker?
lpcvoid 2 hours ago [-]
What part of c++ is inefficient? I can write that pretty quickly without having some cloud service hallucinate stuff.
And no, a faster way to write or refactor code is not anti-worker. Corporations gobbling up tax payer money to build power hungry datacenters so billionaires can replace workers is.
snet0 33 minutes ago [-]
I never said C++ was inefficient, you don't have to prove anything. It's a hypothetical, try use your imagination.
> Corporations gobbling up tax payer money to build power hungry datacenters so billionaires can replace workers is.
Which part of this is important? If there was no taxpayer funding, would it be okay? If it was low power-consumption, would it be okay?
I just want to understand what the precise issue is.
GaryBluto 7 minutes ago [-]
Who could've predicted that the alarmist luddite viewpoint would be unpopular on the technology forum?
blibble 27 seconds ago [-]
technology forum? the last hacker left this dump for lobsters 5 years ago
now it's full of SBF and scam altman wannabees
nkmnz 57 minutes ago [-]
You shouldn't be using a wheel, it's inherently anti-worker.
bdangubic 2 hours ago [-]
what about cars? they are anti-horses… can we use cars/buses/trains… or nah?
2 hours ago [-]
pil0u 1 hours ago [-]
Yes, it is an unpopular opinion around here, but pretty much in the tech world.
I think this is because most of the users/praisers of GenAI can only see it as a tool to improve productivity (see sibling comment). And yes, end of 2025, it's becoming harder to argue that GenAI is not a productivity booster across many industries.
The vast majority of people in tech are totally missing the question of morality. Missing it, or ignoring it, or hiding it.
Refreeze5224 1 hours ago [-]
I agree. The goal of AI is to reduce payroll costs. It has nothing to do with IDEs or writing code or making "art". It's meant to allow the owning class to pay the working class less, nothing more. What it *can* do is irrelevant in the face of what it is for.
RHSeeger 12 minutes ago [-]
You've pretty much described the "what it is for" for a large percentage of industrial inventions. Clearly, however, the world would be worse off without many of them.
teruakohatu 41 minutes ago [-]
If workers (i.e. me) choose to use it without it being imposed on them, is that a morally bad thing in your worldview?
I was trying to use an obscure CLI tool the other day. Almost no documentation and one wrong argument and I would brick an expensive embedded device.
Somehow Google gave me the right arguments in its AI generated answer to my search, and it worked.
I first tried every forum post I could find, but nobody seemed to be doing exactly what I was attempting to do.
I think this is a clear and moral win for AI. I am not in a position to hire embedded development consultants for personal DIY projects.
ares623 2 hours ago [-]
I think the backlash comes from all the "AI-driven" layoffs that absolutely impact the end users negatively.
SkyeCA 2 hours ago [-]
Why did the original get flagged?
Edit: On a second look the list is kind of weird. I'd love to block AI stuff but the blocklist is far, far too broad.
elcapitan 2 hours ago [-]
Yeah I hoped it would blacklist all those spammy autogenerated SEO sites from search results, but it looks like a vendetta with anything AI or machine learning in general.
Interesting that the previous post was flagged. You may or may not find the list useful, but flag? Did it hurt some sensitivities?
haupt 2 hours ago [-]
It's a so-called hot-button topic and unfortunately HN isn't quite the paragon of pragmatic technical discussion that it was in the past. C'est la vie.
mmooss 2 hours ago [-]
The reactionary response against the new technology, even on HN, is pretty strong. If I ran an AI developer, I'd take it as a signal that I'm doing something right - people see how powerful our product is, and they care about it. Hate and love aren't too different; we'll have many dedicated users who will have forgotten.
First they laugh at you
Then they tell you it violates the orthodoxy
Then they think they knew it all along
PaulDavisThe1st 15 minutes ago [-]
“But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.”
-- Carl Sagan
machinationu 1 hours ago [-]
As PG would say, the best startups are for ideas which are hated, because you'll have no competition.
muvlon 24 minutes ago [-]
But that's plainly wrong. Anything you try to do with AI right now will have a ton of competition.
Barrin92 1 hours ago [-]
>the best startups are for ideas which are hated
yes and so are the worst, and the problem is 95% of ideas that sound stupid aren't stupid and genius, but just stupid. As Peter Thiel used to say, it's not enough to be a contrarian, that's easy, you need to be contrarian and correct.
dangus 47 minutes ago [-]
Right, and let’s not forget that the VC game that YC plays in assumes that the vast majority of their ventures will fail.
It’s way more exploitative than it gets credit for, even those who criticize VC firms aren’t verbalizing the vastness of the scope of the issue:
Startup incubators prey on young and ambitious people’s willingness to have zero life outside of work in order to set 90% of them up to fail and make huge profits off of the 10% Airbnb-type success stories.
These VC firms have money but no talent or time of their own so they basically steal it from founders in exchange for a Hollywood or pro sports-style superstar pipe dream where most are statistically guaranteed to fail, and even those who succeed don’t keep the majority of the fruits of their labor.
These failed startup founders end up with skills that are supposedly transferable to future ventures or what have you, but I bet if someone actually tracked down a lot of these people they might find a lot of sob stories of early stage founders who ended up burning out of their early career and having the whole startup founder experience representing a net negative in their lives.
lefrenchy 1 hours ago [-]
Or it’s inauthentic and people don’t want AI slop that anyone can generate.
matt3210 1 hours ago [-]
If it can be generated with a prompt, it has infinite supply and finite demand. It’s literally worthless in all senses of the term.
What worries me is that it’s reducing the value of actual engineering work (or good quality art). It’s like car lemons. Their existence also reduces the value of the good quality work
This kind of reminds me Steam where indie devs need to exclaim loudly that they are not using AI, otherwise they face backlash. Meanwhile a significant percentage of devs are using GenAI for better tab completion, better search or generating tests. All things that do not impact the end user experience negatively.
I don’t think anyone decrying the current crop of “AI” is against “thinking machines”. We’re not there yet, LLMs don’t think, despite the marketing.
And it's not even that apparent how much GenAI improves overall development speed, beyond making toy apps. Hallucinations, bugs, misreading your intentions, getting stuck in loops, wasting your time debugging and testing and it still doesn't help with the actual hard problems of devwork. Even the examples you mention can be fallible.
On top of all that is AI even profitable? It might be fine now but what happens when it's priced to reflect its actual costs? Anecdotally it already feels like models are being quantised and dumbed down - I find them objectively less useful and I'm hitting usage limits quicker than before. Once the free ride is over, only rich people from rich countries will have access to them and of course only big tech companies control the models. It could be peer pressure but many people genuinely object to AI universally. You can't get the useful parts without the rest of it.
The list is also too specific to be useful in some cases, like, is it really important to you that you add 12 entries for specific Amazon products, like: ` duckduckgo.com,bing.com##a[href*="amazon.com/Rabbit-Coloring-Book-Rabbits-Lovers/dp/B0CV43GKGZ"]:upward(li):remove()`?
A smart loud minority is screaming a lot but actual paying customers don't care as long as the game is not trash.
If an IDE had powerful, effective hotkeys and shortcuts and refactoring tools that allowed devs to be faster and more efficient, would that be anti-worker?
And no, a faster way to write or refactor code is not anti-worker. Corporations gobbling up tax payer money to build power hungry datacenters so billionaires can replace workers is.
> Corporations gobbling up tax payer money to build power hungry datacenters so billionaires can replace workers is.
Which part of this is important? If there was no taxpayer funding, would it be okay? If it was low power-consumption, would it be okay?
I just want to understand what the precise issue is.
now it's full of SBF and scam altman wannabees
I think this is because most of the users/praisers of GenAI can only see it as a tool to improve productivity (see sibling comment). And yes, end of 2025, it's becoming harder to argue that GenAI is not a productivity booster across many industries.
The vast majority of people in tech are totally missing the question of morality. Missing it, or ignoring it, or hiding it.
I was trying to use an obscure CLI tool the other day. Almost no documentation and one wrong argument and I would brick an expensive embedded device.
Somehow Google gave me the right arguments in its AI generated answer to my search, and it worked.
I first tried every forum post I could find, but nobody seemed to be doing exactly what I was attempting to do.
I think this is a clear and moral win for AI. I am not in a position to hire embedded development consultants for personal DIY projects.
Edit: On a second look the list is kind of weird. I'd love to block AI stuff but the blocklist is far, far too broad.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39771742
yes and so are the worst, and the problem is 95% of ideas that sound stupid aren't stupid and genius, but just stupid. As Peter Thiel used to say, it's not enough to be a contrarian, that's easy, you need to be contrarian and correct.
It’s way more exploitative than it gets credit for, even those who criticize VC firms aren’t verbalizing the vastness of the scope of the issue:
Startup incubators prey on young and ambitious people’s willingness to have zero life outside of work in order to set 90% of them up to fail and make huge profits off of the 10% Airbnb-type success stories.
These VC firms have money but no talent or time of their own so they basically steal it from founders in exchange for a Hollywood or pro sports-style superstar pipe dream where most are statistically guaranteed to fail, and even those who succeed don’t keep the majority of the fruits of their labor.
These failed startup founders end up with skills that are supposedly transferable to future ventures or what have you, but I bet if someone actually tracked down a lot of these people they might find a lot of sob stories of early stage founders who ended up burning out of their early career and having the whole startup founder experience representing a net negative in their lives.
What worries me is that it’s reducing the value of actual engineering work (or good quality art). It’s like car lemons. Their existence also reduces the value of the good quality work